Jon & Kate plus 8 *series finale tonight 11/23*

[Jessica]

I've never heard of that sort of house arrangement, but I think it's an awesome idea and especially makes sense with 9 young children.

[tylersgirl]

Yeah, I have never heard of the house arrangement either, but it's a good idea...

 

Erin, you are right. It seemed like Kate maybe wanted to work on it, but Jon seemed really over it. It was really sad!

[ACDCDCAC]

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Originally Posted by ErinB I got the feeling that Kate would be willing to work on teh marriage but Jon had his mind made up. I do think they would have had the same issues, if not more, even without the show.

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Originally Posted by tylersgirl It seemed like Kate maybe wanted to work on it, but Jon seemed really over it.

ok so i didnt watch last night, but im so sad because i really love that show. i noticed that my attention to it has been wandering ever since the trouble has started. for some reason it just doesnt fit my minds fairy-tale of having multiples and what the show should really be focusing on. yes, i guess there is really no way around discussing/involving the divorce announcement, but something i really enjoyed about the show was kate and jon's back and forth banter, together, and how they handled life raising 2 sets of multiples. kate always seemed a little pretentious and aure of herself, and jon was always just the opposite, so laid back and ok with letting kate rule the roost. they seemed like such an opposites attract perfect match for each other.

as the seasons progressed, i saw how kate was becoming more and more of a complete bitch, moving on to total shrew by the last season, and jon seemed to pull more and more away from her. so when erin and des both mentioned that kate seemed sad and to want to work on things, and jon seemed distant and over it, well of course! kate pushed him to that point, im sure of it. of course she wanted to work on things, she probably regrets being such a bitch to him all those years! she should have given him more credit, and appreciated him, and maybe he wouldnt have felt the need to find kindness and appreciation elsewhere. im not saying he cheated, but just that he obviously was finally done being treated that way by her. i feel so sad for him, but mostly the kids.

i hope tlc pulls away from the focus being on the parents-- and back to the kids, who are the reason the show is on in the first place! its so fun to watch them all, multiples are amazing and just the thought of 8 kids growing and changing together is entertaining!

[~Melissa~]

He kept saying, "I'm only 32" which bothered me. Yeah so what? You're 32 and you're a father and a husband, what's wrong with that buddy?

[DanielleNDerek]

Abbie I agree with you Kate was a complete bitch.

 

i didnt watch the full episode last night just some of the end but what i did see was really sad. I dont think the show ruined their relationship, I think they would of had these problems without the show. When i first started watching the show i really liked Jon and Kate & of course everyone loves the kids but as the more i watched the more i hated how Kate treated Jon. I know if i had multiples i would yell at dh sometimes but not over every little thing. I literally wanted to jump in the TV and smack her over the coupon incident. the guy forgot to use the coupon give him a break, he had just packed up the old house and was trying to get moved into the new one and your gonna harp on him over a coupon when your making $75k an episode. At that point i kind of had enough of the way Kate was treating Jon. So no surprise that Jon has had enough too. I did feel really bad for Kate last night because you could tell she was really upset and seemed like she wanted to work things out.

[JOSIE]

Man, this was so hard to watch. I just hated watching it.....knowing how hard and the guilt both parents must be feeling. I don't think its right to put the kids through a nationally televised divorce... I agree that Kate pushed Jon to this point, but I also think that he is at fault for not standing up to her and letting it all bottle up until it was too late. What can you expect when a young couple has 8 kids Its hard enough to perfect communication in a relationship with no kids, let alone trying to focus on your marriage when you have mulitiples to focus on. I hated seeing how awkward it was watching Jon and totally being aware that he was done and just wants to get out. Then theres Kate who everyone knows wanted to pull it together.

 

my heart is breaking for the kids

[Christine]

okay I am going to totally disagree with you girls about Kate being the entire cause of this divorce.

 

Sure Kate was bitchy there is no doubt about that but who wouldn't be stressed out and bitchy with 8 kids running around. Jon let her rule the roost (he even said so last night, and never ever stood up for himself). For Kate I think she would have been less bitchy to him if he would have taken some initiative to do something.

From what I have read about them, he has had a hard time keeping a job and has always been a little lazy and immature-that to me was incredibly clear last night when he obviously wanted to just give up with out trying to seek out help and just quit. Seriously how can you just have renewed your vows last summer and then jump so quickly to divorce. I don't think he has tried, I think he shut down and didn't give the marriage a second thought. He's going through an early mid-life crisis (he got a motorcycle, got his ears peirced, has a spikey haircut).

 

As for Kate, I do think she has realized how she behaves with him, she even mentioned it last night during the house building part of the episode. It was clear that she was nervous to even speak her opinion to him with out him totally flying off the handle.

 

I don't blame her for being the way she was with him, she does have an OCD personality, and was trying to do the best for her family. I have times when I am a snarky bitch, don't we all...ours just aren't on national television for the world to see.

 

the blame for their divorce is all about her, the radio was even talking about how her "rudeness" was worse than his cheating. There is nothing that can excuse cheating, nothing in my opinion. Personally I blame him for not being more of a man and taking care of his family, if he didn't want all the media attention then he probably should have kept a decent job and taken care of his family. She sought this all out because she needed to take care of her family since he wasn't interested in doing so.

[Sapphire723]

I'm gonna have to agree with Christine on this one. Yeah, Kate is unreasonably bitchy sometimes, but Jon never stood up to her. You teach people how to treat you, and if you let someone with an alpha personality walk all over you, they will. And he was super passive aggressive.

 

At first I thought Kate was horrible for cutting him off and not letting him speak, but then when he started to talk, I realized why. She didn't want him to come off as a moron to the national public. He's definitely mid-life crisis-ing, and he's acting really immature. My John and I both agreed that if we had to deal with him on a daily basis, we might yell at him too! Plus he's both complained about having to work and then complained about not being able to escape to work... you can't have it both ways! He wants to have all of the fun and none of the responsibility.

 

Overall, I hope Kate learns to mellow out and Jon learns to grow up and they can reconcile and live peacefully. It has got to break Kate's heart every day to look at some of those kids because some of them look so much like Jon.

[rodent]

i also don't think kate is to blame. I don't think you can place the blame on one person or cause (like saying it's the show that ruined their marriage, having 8 kids, etc.)

 

i try to use the show as a learning experience. it is TLC afterall they do a lot of things right. I like how they are with their kids. It bothers me to see the media grab a handful of clips & try to portray her as a bad mom. You can see how the dynamics of a marriage can be good & bad while watching them. It reminds me to not talk over mike (which I tend to do).

[LisaG]

I'm going to have to agree with Christine as well. The show broke my heart last night. Yes, Kate was a bitch 98% of the time, but I agree that Jon needs to grow up.

I hate that he kept saying he was only 32 years old too. So what?! And you are a husband and a dad. Grow up and act like a grown up.

So I'm guessing she will have her own place, he will have his and then they have the kids house. I couldn't imagine the other person being there around my things, possibly being all snoopy in my stuff, and me not being there. That's going to be strange.