Question for Photographers!
Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:13 AM
I am researching photographers and had a few questions on what to look for. There are so many photographers! I am not only looking at style and quality but also the package deals. I was wondering why some photographers include high resolution pictures on DVD to brides while others only give the low resolution proofs that is not meant to be printed. If I got the low resolution proofs couldn't I later if I wanted have a photographer retouch them and make it look more professional? and if a photographer doesn't offer high resolution on DVD or CD- is it because they can't (maybe lack of software/equipment) or because is it the time and process? Does it matter if it's on a DVD or CD?
And for the brides out there. If your package included just low resolution on a disc- was that all you really needed? Did it matter or not if your package offered all the high quality pictures on disc?
Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:51 AM
Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:02 PM
With a high resolution disc and all personal rights to the pictures, you can print them, make photo books from them... or 10 years down the line you can do something with them. I really feel that the high resolution disc is the way to go. However, many photographers will charge for the disc since print prices are where they can make a lot of money, so you'll probably end up paying more for their services. But, when you add up the cost of all the prints... it gets REALLY expensive. Just something to think about! Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll do my best to answer them!
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Posted 25 August 2008 - 08:59 AM
Usually the reason the photographer doesn't include the high resolution files is because they want you to order your prints through them because they charge a high price for prints (like 20$ - 100$ for an enlargement. You could get the same thing from a local store for 1-3$, although the quality of the professional ones is better, but for me personally not worth the extremely high price).
It's also possible they don't include the high resolution files because then they have to edit all the files, rather than just editing the ones you order from them. but I really think it's more about forcing you to buy prints from them.
More and more photographers are starting to give the high resolution files, because they know that's what most clients want.
In terms of CD versus DVD, the only noticeable difference is that a DVD can fit a lot more pictures (like 5 times a much, because CD is 700MB and DVD 4.7GB)
Posted 30 August 2008 - 02:20 AM
Most questions have already been answered but I think there's some misunderstanding on what "low res" photos are.
First of all, you can't "retouch" them to make them better. They probably have already been processed by your photographer, but then "downsampled" to low res. That simply means that they can only be viewed on a computer, or if printed they would barely look acceptable on a 4x6. Forget about 5x7 and larger. Even if you COULD "retouch" them, by printing them you'd probably be breaking the copyrights that the photographer gave you... and that's just unethical.
We firmly believe that that is changing. First of all, we know that if we provide only low-res versions, our brides WILL try to print 8x10 and they will look bad, therefore making US look bad. So it's self-defeating to limit to low-res.
Further, I myself would rather make up-front money than HOPE for an order down the road. The time/effort spent 6-12 months later to make prints isn't worth it. It isn't worth the "sales" process to sell prints. And, IMO it's unethical to charge $50 for one 8x10 that costs us $2.45 at one of the best printing companies in the country!
And here's a secret... I'd MUCH rather be answering our phones, responding to emails, and working on our marketing as compared to screwing around with making print orders. Think about it, why would I want to work hard trying to get a $300 or so photo order, spend a couple hours getting it ready to send to the printer, making the order, receiving the order, checking over prints, then re-packaging and worrying about shipping. I'd MUCH rather be talking to a prospective bride willing to spend $1000-2000 up-front for a full service photo package!
So, all of our packages include a disc with hi-res AND low-res photos. So really there's 2x the photos, every hi-res is turned into a low-res, too. Bride gets both.
We factor that cost into our packages. We don't "nickel and dime" our clients and we don't mislead or confuse our brides with fine print. For example, there's one company in town that claims to provide all photos on a disc. They do, but they are VERY low-res... like barely good enough to post on MySpace!
That said, many of our packages include prints, but those are "sold" as part of the package and taken care of right away. There's no after-selling or screwing around with that stuff later on.
ANYWAY, maybe the short answer to your question is this:
If the photographer is offering hi-res photos on disc, ASK THEM the size of the photos (in pixels x pixels and also in file size). If they are truly hi-res, then they will be AT LEAST 5mb in size (except if they are black/white, they will be smaller). If they are truly hi-res then you can expect NO other expenses from the photographer. You'll have your own expenses, but buying very nice prints at Adorama or similar will be MUCH less expensive down the road.
If they offer only the low-res disc then figure you'll be spending more money down the road buying prints from them, since you can't really print your low-res photos.
that's the difference!
Posted 31 August 2008 - 02:56 PM
It all stems from the days of shooting film when the photogs made most of their money by selling prints and albums. It was expensive & time consuming to scan a negative to make a larger print.
Todays digital software doesn't slow down much while working on full resolution files. The photographers just want to sell prints for extra $$$.
This style of business is slowly dying out. Most of the younger shooters realize it more rewarding financially and creatively to be out shooting more then to be organizing print orders.
If your making an album or large prints, you will need to have the higher resolution images. If you just want to share them with family and friends on email or in slideshows, then the lower resolution images are fine.
If i were getting married, personally, i would try to negotiate for the full resolution images and the copyright co-ownership.
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Posted 25 November 2008 - 02:40 AM
thank you, pbnj, for starting this thread! =)
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