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#21 tonyschreiber

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    Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:58 PM

    Like Evan stated, there really aren't any industry-standard and agreed-upon terms for these things. One photographers digital negatives might be every image straight from the camera, while another gives an edited product with every image processed.

    Let's see if I can catalog the individual attributes (and thus wide variations) represented in "digital negatives"...

    1. original source file
    A digital photographer will shoot in either RAW or JPG format. The direct JPG format requires no additional processing to deliver, though many photographers do. A film shooter will usually have to process and gets the negatives scanned. The RAW format requires at least a conversion to jpg, which may be a simple automated task - or a significant part of the photographer's processing workflow.

    2. editing
    This is the process by which images are reduced in number prior to delivery. Some photographers may not edit at all - I would expect them to be then be hacks or *really* *really* good. A good edit removes the closed eyes, bad expressions, oof (out of focus) and other goofs (photographer or subject!). Further editing would include removal of duplicate shots in a series.

    3. post-processing
    This is when images are adjusted for exposure, color, contrast and cropping. Additional processing may include conversion to B/W, sepia or other color and/or texture effects. A photographer might process very little to a lot on a set of proofs, to some or all of the delivered images.

    4. retouching
    The removal of blemishes/wrinkles or other flattering manipulations to the image is retouching. A photographer may retouch few or none of the proofs, but rarely all. Usually the images selected for the album or large prints are retouched.

    5. output size/resolution
    How big is the image being delivered - this determines how big a print can be made from the file. A web-sized image, that would print a decent 4x6 would be at or under 1mp. A mid-sized image, suitable for printing up to 8x10, would be 2-4mp. A high-resolution image, would be 6mp and up. Also, the final jpeg compression affects the file size (in mb) and output quality as ehegwer described.

    6. license
    Do the images on the disc come with a license to make your own prints? The license may have restrictions on output size, duration of rights or intended use. Many photographers confuse licensing with giving copyright or may use the term copyright incorrectly.
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    #22 Denise40

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      Posted 11 July 2008 - 11:24 PM

      For any BDW members that photoshop your photos, could you all help me with something? I am trying to edit some of my photos that are on my CD, I am trying to figure out how to make the colors "pop"? For example, in the album that I received with the edited photos (4x6), my dress/girls/guys shirts are very vivid and the photos on the CD are blah. I have some photoshop actions that I have used on some, but I still can get the clothes/water etc to pop. Does anyone have and tips or hints to help?

      TIA

      I really need to take a photoshop course

      #23 COFPhoto

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        Posted 12 July 2008 - 01:35 AM

        It's possible that the photos are looking "blah" to you because you don't have a properly calibrated monitor. Especially if you're viewing them on a laptop, because a laptop typically has it's monitor brightness turned up extra high so you can see it outside, etc.

        What you might want to do is make a copy of your CD, or copy a few photos to a new CD (so your original CD stays safe at home) and take it to a lab and have a few 5x7s printed. You might be surprised to find that the prints look more like what's in the album and less like what you're seeing on your monitor.

        Just a thought.

        #24 Denise40

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          Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:51 PM

          I wanted to thank everyone for their offers of help and opinions on this subject. I contacted my photographer right away, and we have been emailing back and forth. He stated that he always sends out the edited CD, he thinks that by mistake, he sent me the backup CD instead of the edited one. Well, I finally got the new one, well, not yet. DHL delivered it today, but no one was home to sign for it, so I should have it tomorrow!!

          #25 rodent

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            Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:00 PM

            I just got my metallic prints from mpix.com. they are beautiful!!!

            #26 joshfrommontreal

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              Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:13 PM

              that's great you got it figured out. I actually did the same thing once. I save all my final edited images in a different folder and I by mistake burnt the wrong folder. I would have been horrified if the bride thought I was giving her something sub-par as a final product.

              Denise, if you still want some photoshop help please contact me. I'll link you to some tutorials and give you some actions which should make things pop.

              #27 Denise40

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                Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:44 PM

                Quote:
                Originally Posted by Morgan
                I just got my metallic prints from mpix.com. they are beautiful!!!
                Morgan,

                The photos that my photographer printed out I really loved the look. I asked him what they were printed on and he said metallic photo paper. He said he didn't think they had that in the states. I am so glad that you said yours are metallic print. I will have to go check that site out. How long did it take to get them? Were they expensive and what sizes did you order? Sorry for all of the questions.

                #28 Denise40

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                  Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:45 PM

                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by joshfrommontreal
                  that's great you got it figured out. I actually did the same thing once. I save all my final edited images in a different folder and I by mistake burnt the wrong folder. I would have been horrified if the bride thought I was giving her something sub-par as a final product.

                  Denise, if you still want some photoshop help please contact me. I'll link you to some tutorials and give you some actions which should make things pop.

                  Josh I would love some help. I have worked with some actions, not a whole lot. I am also taking an online course in Workflow for CS3 but really havn't been able to focus too much yet on it. Thanks so much

                  #29 rodent

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                    Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:51 PM

                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by Denise40
                    Morgan,

                    The photos that my photographer printed out I really loved the look. I asked him what they were printed on and he said metallic photo paper. He said he didn't think they had that in the states. I am so glad that you said yours are metallic print. I will have to go check that site out. How long did it take to get them? Were they expensive and what sizes did you order? Sorry for all of the questions.
                    Print Prices & Products - Order digital photo prints online from professional imaging lab, Mpix.com

                    I ordered an 8x10 & four 5x7s to display at our AHR. I just wanted to see how it looked before I placed another order. They are beautiful!

                    Shipping is a flat fee of $5. But, different photo finishes get split up into different shipments. So you'd end up paying shipping again. They arrived in 2 days.

                    I will be ordering more. I just haven't decided which pictures I'm going to hang up.

                    pick "do not color correct" when you are checking out. Your photographer already did that.




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